Sorry, Shivang but you seem to be completely out of context here. Why? Because I didn't say that men are fools to believe in cause/faith/religion/god/human, you interpreted that by yourself or more plausibly misinterpreted...What I wanted to say was just that WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN RELIGION BUT WITH REASON, WE SHOULD NOT BLINDLY FOLLOW ANY IDEA OR THOUGHT PROCESS. And, thereby those men who believe in religion, here I mean "true religion" and follow "true saints" not the saints (or crooks as you said) "who speak utter non-sense", are not fools.
Did it never occur to you that a man who once performed heinous crimes, suddenly takes a plunge in Ganges and then is proclaimed by those saints(or crooks) to be free of all sins, to be senseless and irrational. Then how in the world do you tell me to leave my power of reasoning behind.
And, when did I say "looking for the causes and rationality of every action". Here again you interpreted or misinterpreted by yourself...I only talked about religion and not every other action(of course, I won't reason whether I should brush my teeth or not, etc)....Religion surely deserves to be followed with reason.
"wouldnt have survived this long if we questioned our parents when they first fed us or clothed us whn we couldnt make sense of its utility" - Here again you wandered away from the topic, from where did the role of parents entered into play.....only religion and saints are in limelight...and not reason-ability of common actions....
"same is the case with the path that leads to truth" - Unreasonbleness, I don't think so. Why? Ramamkrishna parahamsa questioned about the viability of "bread-winning" education (moment of rationality) to his parents and then went on to learn vedas(that includes Upanishads-contains non-dual principle-that is, what was quoted by Vivekananda in earlier post), Puranas, etc....Buddha questioned his charioteer about old age, death and then he developed distaste for this life and finally became a monk (again arising from rationality and faculty of cognition)....look into autobiographies of everyone with minutest details...it will become inescapble for you not to find reasonable and rational approach of all these "true saints"....
"vivekanada was the chief disciple of ramakrishna paramhansa.to train the eye to see something that is esoteric one needs a guide." - Not agreed. Why? Buddha, Jesus found truth by themselves, didn't they? Yes, you might now say that they were extraordinary but that doesn't deny the fact that truth can be searched alone, if you have the will to do so....
"quote buddha and vivekanada without checking twice on their integrity/holiness bcoz u believe that they can guide u to the answer to ur dilemma." - How did you presume that I didn't check? From where did you deduce this statement? Did you perform extraction of stealing my ideas from the deepest hidden corners of my subconsciousness like that guy Dom Cobb did in the movie Inception? I seriously doubt this....As a matter of fact, I did check...but not now, it started when I first read of Buddha in 6th-7th of our NCERT book....and since then have been reading about him and others...And, now you tell me to check their integrity/ holiness...Well, I bet you, if you ever find something erroneous about them, please do tell me....
"it is our psyche/pride at work when we look to find means to demean others as it is hard to acknowledge that there do exist those who know/understand more than we do." - Please do tell me whom did I demean. And, where did I claim in my post that I am the most intelligent or for that matter wrote anything that made you interpret this....please do quote any sentence from my post....
"The learning and knowledge that we have, is, at the most, but little compared with that of which we are ignorant." plato - Agreed one hundred percent....But this has nothing do with what I posted...Yet again comprehensively out of context...
And, once again I want to say this:-
WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN RELIGION BUT WITH REASON AND WE SHOULD NOT BLINDLY FOLLOW ANY IDEA OR THOUGHT PROCESS.
Why have I been so much concerned about reason can made more clear once you read this. During my childhood years I mostly lived with my granparents in village, did my schooling there till class-III. That must have been around 1991-92, good enough age to remember little bits of information. What do I remember? Once my grandparents or parents, I don't remember whom, once informed me that there is a house of "bhangee" over there, and reprimanded me to never ever go near them, exhorting that God will punish me. Of-course, without any power of reasoning then, I would've believed them, But, when I read of Buddha and works by others, as well as mathematics (practice of reasoning), I started to exercise my power of cognition. And, then what do I see now, what my grandparents/ parents were telling me was rubbish all the way, and had this power of reasoning and the urge to search & find the truth on my own, not taken place in me, I would've been blindly following what they call as religion, which in actuality is not. How the hell is that person whom they call "bhangee" or by any other name which they can pick up to make it sound more derogatory, be anyhow different from us? Does he not eat, sleep, drink as we do? Does he not has flesh, bones, hairs as we do have? To hell with all those irrationalists and fools, I pity them, for how long will it take them to realize the truth only the almighty knows. "A person with even an iota of rationalism would not believe in such non-sense."
"Where shall we go to find God if we cannot see Him in our own hearts and in EVERY LIVING BEING. To me God exists in everyone as much as He does in me, for we are nothing but self-multiplied, just for ever once try to visualize yourself in that thoughtlessness state, which would have existed at the time of our births, before all this rubbish was forced into our minds, JUST TRY ONCE"
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